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 Post subject: Classic bait-and-switch
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:45 am 
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Classic bait-and-switch

"Yesterday, The New York Times added to this frenzy by reporting that “Donald Trump Jr. was informed in an email that the material was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father’s candidacy.” While I remain skeptical of the basis for a crime based on “collusion,” that would clearly be a significant development in supporting allegations of a knowing coordination with the Russians.

Today, Trump Jr. released his emails on Twitter. One states, “the crown prosecutor of Russia” had offered “to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.” Rod Goldstone, a publicist, stated, “This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”

That would clearly constitute at least initial communications and possible coordination between the Russians and the Trump campaign. However, the article raises more questions than answers. If the Russians were making such a play to influence the election in favor of Trump, this is a curious way of going about it. The most obvious question is why the Russians would call such a meeting but not actually produce any evidence or even substantive allegations.

One obvious explanation is that Trump Jr., Kushner, and Manafort fell for a classic bait-and-switch. Veselnitskaya was representing people seeking to lift the adoption ban, and it was certainly amateur hour in Trump Tower. If this is the best the Russians can do as their big play, we have little to worry about.

They question is whether the Trump team is a bunch of click-bait chumps or criminals. In other words, does any of this constitute a clear crime or even a vague inkblot image of a crime?

No, at least not on these facts."

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 Post subject: Re: Classic bait-and-switch
PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:04 am 
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I don't believe that Russia has anything titled "Crown Prosecutor". Really, when you think of it, royalty, and anything referring to royalty, was stricken from the government lexicon in 1917, when they overthrew "the crown".

If it was simply a personal definition, how can anything else be trusted as verbatim truth? The Russians were capable of penetrating out "elite" intelligence services, our military, and commercial ventures dealing with military R&D during the Cold War. Anyone with access to Google, even a journalist, can get a list of those efforts that were discovered. Why then, when capable of doing that, would they need to be so juvenile in this entire election fiasco?

Instead, I propose this. The Democratic Party broke the law in multiple fashions. Hackers discovered this during one of their sweeps trying to access information. IF they were Russian hackers, or old East Bloc hackers, the Russian government may have penetrated their network. A warning to the West would have been a violation of THEIR National Security (key the solemn tone of a US government official when asked about NSA's methods). I would have imagined that, like any other government, leaks occur. THAT may have been what Trump's son blundered into.

I would think that the Democratic Party, and the elected officials they control, would automatically massage and spin the fact that they broke the laws of this country into a campaign against the winner of the election. Remember, a total lie is the most difficult thing to defend against.

Thinking about it, it's much better than defending against their own law-breaking. As well, anything done to bring the law-breakers to justice can be spun as the Party in power trying to cover up a "much larger" issue.

This investigation has also uncovered a multitude of private meetings between Democratic elected officials, and their Russian counterparts over the past nine years. Then again, remember Obama's own comments when he thought he was off-microphone in HIS meeting with Russian officials. The one about "having more leeway" in his last term. Perhaps the Democrats leading the charge today need to check into the relationship between a sitting US President, and the Russian government, under Obama, not Trump?

The news media is sitting on a huge amount of information about how Obama operated during his terms. Information that would prove highly embarrassing to THEM if they released it. Look at the paperwork "discovered" on the extent of Obama's input into Fast and Furious, the gun-running scheme into Mexico. Never mind Hillary's own manipulations as Secretary of State. Everything that a Clinton touches comes away with the stink of corruption on it. Or the smell of death.

Ever wonder why the media isn't clamoring for the prosecution of Democratic Officials over the hack that revealed their own malfeasance in office?

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 Post subject: Re: Classic bait-and-switch
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It IS a commie plot
Make us doubt our election results
Have the idiot left chasing their tails trying to find anything on President Trump and in so doing, the liberal media discredits itself so badly that no one trusts it anymore ala Little boy who cried "Wolf!"

I'd say their plan is working.
They're driving wedges everywhere.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:27 am 
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Yep !

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 Post subject: Re: Classic bait-and-switch
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Bigchoad wrote:
It IS a commie plot
Make us doubt our election results
Have the idiot left chasing their tails trying to find anything on President Trump and in so doing, the liberal media discredits itself so badly that no one trusts it anymore ala Little boy who cried "Wolf!"

I'd say their plan is working.
They're driving wedges everywhere.


YES!

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 Post subject: Re: Classic bait-and-switch
PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:30 pm 
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Yeah, it's a communist plot... I've been saying that a long time. And y'all remember Kronkite right after Tet of '68... But, what is it they say about not interrupting the enemy while they're making a yuge mistake?

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